What does everybody think abour MW4?

I've played all the Mechwarrior games, yeh I'm an old guy, relatively. The game is fun, no doubt but I miss being able to place heat sinks and the effect of them getting shot off in battle. Speaking of heat it's not as much of a factor as the older games. The dedicated hard points were a good idea but I've noticed that even though a weapon is destroyed in battle it's still there before the next mission, takes some of the tension out of it. In previous games I was able to assign turret twisting to the coolie hat, not in this one. Assigning your own waypoints would have been nice but not a big factor to me. The mech's are faster which is cool but also makes for the biggest flaw and that is there is almost no long range engagement, the enemy mech's run right up and get in your face, it makes LRM's almost useless because you can't get a lock. The missions are varied, some are easy some are not and I am enjoying playing it, but it seems MS has dumbed it down for the masses, not as much of a sim as it used to be. BTW if you have a Gforce card and haven't installed the Detonator3 drivers from Nvidia, go ahead and do it. I went throgh an upgrade nightmare just before the D3 drivers came out so when I finally had a good running system I was reluctant to change anything especially after reading the horror stories. I installed them without a hitch and went from running MW4 at 800x600x32 to 1280x1024x32 and still getting about the same frame rates, it's almost like installing a new 3D card, awsome. Crib.

They dumbed it down and made it too much not like a sim. I am expecting to see it at a Arcade in the mall.

it lasted a entire hour on my system.. think Ill go buy Alice instead.

MW4 is a lot of fun. Especially multiplayer. Team Attrition rulz

this is a great game! if you are replying about the demo, dont bother. the story line would be detter if it were branched, but the game play is excellent. you have to use topography and weapon choice to your advantage to complete the task. you can not go toe to toe, it wont last long. the maps are huge and the details are great. if you like the Mech series, this is a must have.
nerf

well I miss being able to shoot off the leg to cripple the enemy.
now they don't fall down anymore..I miss blowing light mechs off their feet with a gauss slug

quote:Originally posted by lmpulse:
well I miss being able to shoot off the leg to cripple the enemy.
now they don't fall down anymore..I miss blowing light mechs off their feet with a gauss slug

That was teh coolest. But I like to use quad-linked Large Lasers or six-linked mediums. Woo, those could make some heat.

Is MechWarrior better to play with joystick or mouse & keyboard like Quake and Unreal engine games ? What engine are they using btw ?

MechWarrior 4 is better with a joystick. I have a Sidewinder Precision Pro and that really provides all the controls you need. There are only a few buttons on the keyboard you actually need to use in order to play the game.

Actually, the preferred method of control for hardcore MW* fans is mouse-keyboard. I use a joystick with 'em and it works great, but my friend the scary-addicted MW* player says the only right way is the m-k.

quote:Originally posted by KroNosDXI:
Actually, the preferred method of control for hardcore MW* fans is mouse-keyboard. I use a joystick with 'em and it works great, but my friend the scary-addicted MW* player says the only right way is the m-k.

That is true for older Mech games, but for MW4, joystick blows away k & m.

I find both ways fairly easy in MW 4. I prefer the Joystick alittle more though.

It's a great looking game, but in internet multiplayer waaaayyy too much time is spent heading back to where the battle is actually happening. I guess I'm just a quake nut, but I like the instant action that a game like quake gives you. Don't get me wrong, I still love playing MW4, but sometimes I think it's only just for the eye and ear candy, if you know what I mean.

I kinda like the walk back after a grueling battle to chill for a second. Sometimes I walk real slow so I can get another beer and take a leak, can be risky though. I need a fridge near the computer and a bucket under my chair, I'd never have to stop.

I think it would be better with a joystick, except for the fact that I can't use my hat switches.

I have a logitech wingman joystick (gameport version). It's got three hat switches on it, but MW4 doesn't recognize any of them. Funny thing is, when I go into the game controllers menu in the control panel and look at the properties on it, it recognizes all of the hat switches. Anybody else have this issue?

Running MW4 on win2k.

-thehutt

quote:Originally posted by IL96:
Is MechWarrior better to play with joystick or mouse & keyboard like Quake and Unreal engine games ? What engine are they using btw ?

quote:Originally posted by thehutt:
I think it would be better with a joystick, except for the fact that I can't use my hat switches.

I have a logitech wingman joystick (gameport version). It's got three hat switches on it, but MW4 doesn't recognize any of them. Funny thing is, when I go into the game controllers menu in the control panel and look at the properties on it, it recognizes all of the hat switches. Anybody else have this issue?

Running MW4 on win2k.

-thehutt

Maybe because Microsoft wants people to buy their hardware and they enforce it in their games. Mech Warrior is a MS game after all...
BTW i think DirectX graphics sucks compared to Open GL, GL is more real, more like life... : )

quote:Originally posted by thehutt:
Anybody else have this issue?
Running MW4 on win2k.
-thehutt

I have a Wingman Digital Extreme on 95c and it wont ID at all!!!! Control Panel shoows it there, drivers show it there, but the game will not identify it and let me use it!

Also, anyone noticed that the Mechwarrior4 site is not showing any support? Grrrr...

Love the game, what little I can play it. Using the K & M combination, I am brought back to my days in MW2... oh yeah baybee... then I realize that the weapon groupings are not color coded, and there is not a highlighting showing me what I am firing! That is annoying....
But I love the game, and I need it to work!

A friend of mine uses a Logitech joystick for it. Not sure which one, but it works fine for him. Do you have the latest drivers/software for your joystick?

quote:Originally posted by Bataar:
A friend of mine uses a Logitech joystick for it. Not sure which one, but it works fine for him. Do you have the latest drivers/software for your joystick?

Oh yeah, that was the first thing I checked. I believe it is 3.3 from Logitech, not sure. Not at my home machine currently. I guess the next step is to update the Sound Card drivers (since that is where the JS attaches to) and see if that fixes the issue...
Grrrr....